Chapter 8 - The Correct Knowledge And Correct View Of Li Mu Yuan

The executive in charge of Singapore Buddhist Lodge, Mr Li Mu Yuan, a Kulapaty (laity) came to visit Grandmaster at the hotel he stayed on December 18th, 1992 during Grandmaster's propagation tour to Singapore.

(Below is an excerpt of conversation between Grandmaster(G) and Li Mu Yuan (L))

G. Thank you for coming. You have given such a great help to the dead convicts.

L. This is my duty. But there are many Singaporeans who misunderstood these kind-hearted dead convicts. In fact, I will help them no matter which school of Buddhism they belonged to. I want to cooperate with others.

Those dead convicts put in a lot of effect in their cultivation. For instance, after the cremation of Lian Hua Bao Cheng, we found two pieces of colourful sarira in his remains. His sisters sent them from the prison to the Singapore Buddhist Lodge, a journey of 30 minutes' drive, another piece of sarira had grown already. It is inconceivable!

We tried to break them with a hammer, but to no avail.

Another True Buddha disciple who used to have good cultivation. But at the last moment, he lost his temper and started to scold others. All his virtue was wiped off, his face bled, and there was no sarira.

It is very difficult to cultivate in the prison. But they encouraged one another, studied and did chanting together. Without any guidance, it was very difficult. It reaffirms the Buddhist saying :"Putting down the butcher's knife, and become an instant Buddha."

G. These people converged here with a cause. They had cultivated for many lives. Since they had made mistakes this life, they wanted to set good examples for other buddhists, and encouraged them to do cultivation. To them, this is their only hope.

L. Some Taiwanese came to ask me whether those sarira are genuine. Since I can't tell lie, I told them the truth.

G. Dharma masters and other follow cultivators who heard the news were sceptical. They wrote to seek confirmation. Some of them even joined hand to protest against me. In fact the sarira is an encouragement for the dead convicts, their only hope. People should not oppose the sarira of dead convicts because just because they do not like True Buddha School.

L. Some convicts cultivated the prostration continuously until black marks left between their eyebrows!

M. I am moved by this.

L. They cultivated personally, and their results are seen by others. As a result, their family members also took refuge and are full of confidence now.

M. Thank you very much.

L. Don't mention it. It is very difficult to succour these dead convicts. There are very few monks who are visiting the prison. Moreover, your books are very difficult to come by, they had to take turn to read the books. The seed you sowed is bearing fruits now. A dead convict took refuge two months before his execution. He was a scoundrel before. He used faeces to throw at others, rubbed at others, and destroyed the images of gods. When he took refuge even his family members could not believe it.

G. He was succoured by Buddha and Bodhisattva. Not me.

L. Why don't you clarify in public?

G. It is difficult, people are very stubborn. They scolded me wherever I go, and even printed a lot of booklets to slander me. I have spoken enough. We are a new school. The slanders will continue unabated. When I was young, I rebutted whenever I was defamed. And now, I let nature take its course. But even then, the slanders did not reduce. This is what happened for the last few years.

L. You come to preside over a ritual?

M. I have given three sermons already. The final one will be a ritual. Our ritual is empowered by Buddha and Bodhisattva, and protected by Vajra protectors. We believe in results. Some dharma masters and monks may show Mudra, recite sutras on the stage but there were no spiritual response by the participants. But our rituals are different. After the souls deliverance ritual, the participant's deceased relatives would tell him that they were uplifted and they had benefited from the well-conducted ritual. The results can be used to help the spread of Buddhism.

Life is so short, there is nothing to fight for, as long as we try our best to do until we are dead, there will be no regrets. Like the dead convicts, we are walking on a road of no return. So is the cultivating path. No matter how big the defamation is, I shall try my best without regrets.

L. We can't recede on our cultivation.

M. There are many people who vowed not to recede, but soon they gave up. That is why Buddha once said as long as you can keep your first vow, you are sure to be enlightened as a Buddha. The first vow is of utmost importance.

L. Bother you for so long, I shall take my leave now.

M. Thank you for coming. I am glad to have met all of you.

L. I should thank you instead. As long as it is correct, we must do it. We don't care about the rest.

This is the first time Living Buddha met Mr. Li Mu Yuan. Mr. Li has been with the Singapore Buddhist Lodge for more than two decades. Although he is not a True Buddha disciple, he has the correct knowledge and correct view.

Before he left, he presented a wooden image of Shakyamuni Buddha to Grandmaster. In return, Grandmaster gave him a rosary beads made of Bodhi seeds. The dharma bliss filled the meeting place.

This is the first time I met Mr. Li Mu Yuan. He is not a True Buddha disciple of me. He gave me the impression that he is a honest and sincere cultivator, who has regular features and is capable of upholding justice.

The news that dead convicts had sarira in their remains travel wide and fast; and the person who discovered the sarira is non other than Li Mu Yuan.

Those who disagree with me said, "Impossible!", "Fabrication!" and "A lie!"

I want to tell you one thing, Li Mu Yuan belongs to Singapore Buddhist Lodge, he does not have any connection with True Buddha School, why must he lie or fabricate for us? Other things which are well recognised:

The sarira is genuine; Li Mu Yuan is a real kulapaty.

To tell the truth, there is only one person that could shock the whole world (past, present, local and overseas), and he is non other than Living Buddha Lian Shen, Master Lu Sheng Yen.

Have you ever heard of the news that a dead convict had sarira before?

It is nothing strange for a venerated monk to have sarira.

It is a great news alright, for a dead convict to have sarira.

It is fated in Lu Sheng Yen's life that a lot of inconceivable things will happen to him. Many of his disciples are unusual people too, and they will have unusual stories to tell.

Stories related to Lu Sheng Yen are always stimulating and full of excitements.

Dead convict - scoundrel

Sarira - A fruit for people who gained enlightenment

Linking these two together, the story will interest and shock many people. Nevertheless, it is true. The fact that dead convicts had sarira in their remains reminds us that master Lu Sheng Yen can use his mystic power to fly and hide in the ground, to change himself into many forms.

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